Best Projectors for the Job

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Okay getting close to coming home.

I want to start my Man Cave Project.(The main purpose for my rig)

I want to do 3 projector nvidia surround with 3d vision and all

I want to know what the best projectors for the job are as i will start buying that before i even start building the Screen.

I want the highest possible resolution with three projectors and 3D if possible.

Also colors are very important to me.

I am not an expert on how refresh rates work but i want as little mouse lag as possible. I ve heard that Projectors provide little to no mouse lag compared to HDMI HD LCDs . So i will need projectors with DVI connections instead of HDMI.

Ive been gaming on a 42" LCD via HDMI and the mouse lag on alot of my games is Horrible! I have not gamed online specifically for this reason.

SO basically i want to know what are the best projectors to get the job done?

Anyone with experience in this sort of thing?

am i in the wrong forum section?

I've always wished for a decent 1080p ultra short throw projector in the 2500 ANSI lumens range and DVI + DP port options. That's a dream though. Most projectors on market are HDMI and/or VGA port input only. The configuration of a circular screen dictates that you at most have the little more than the screen diameter to work with for mounting the projectors. Typically lens throws no longer than 10 foot or so. That will be a critical element in your pick of a projector. Projector lens throw will be the spec you need to wrry about there the most. Ultra short throw projectors fit that throw distance. They are only made in 1024x768 and 1280x800 resolution though. There are no ultra short throw 1080p projectors on the market. What you will be looking for in a projector is NVIDIA 3D Vision certifiaction and a lens throw of between 0.72:1 to 0.48:1. That range will allow the projectors to be properly mounted for a triple ciruclar setup.

I really like the Optima GameTime line of projectors, but have also used Dell S300's on another project. The GameTime projectors have no input pixel processing lag in 3D or Game modes. Here is the NVIDIA 3D Vision certification list. Click on the projectors tab to show what options are available. I would consider the GameTime projectors to be a solid entry level projector.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-system-requirements.html

That list needs to be compared to Projector Central's Projector Calaulator Pro information to find a lens throw within the range I mentioend above.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection-calculator-pro.cfm

Wow thank you so much for your response.

Are you 100% sure there are no 1080p short throw projectors out there?  i could of sworn i looked at a couple just a few days ago.

Whats Ultra Short Throw?  What about regular Shor Throw?  This cant be  i was looking at the

Sony VPL-VW1000ES 4K SXRD 3D Projector but this too much money

Dont know if its short throw or not.  COuld i accomplish things by using a non Short Throw?  My room is not huge but whats the minimum distance?

Ultra short throw is essentially 0.72:1 down to 0.49:1 range. Short throw is anything less than 1:1. The lens throw plays a major part in whatever you end up doing. It's basically what defines what's possible depending upon the room size you're using.

If there are 1080p short-throws out there, they're not a standard consumer product or they're so new I've not heard about them yet. That Sony isn't quite short throw (1.29:1) and that is most definitely not consumer price point ($25,000). A bit crazy, but I could get 50 of the projectors I use for the cost of one of those. smiley

You typically need to be targeting a vertical height of between 48-60" projection if you're going room size. With ultra short throws that still means your mounting locations are roughly 10 feet away from the screen. That becomes problematic in regular rooms and impossible with non-ultra short throws.

48-60" vertical projection height + 8-10 foot lens throw = ultra short throw projectors only. The math limits your options.

You've not mentioned your budget range or build quality yet. Those will weigh heavily on what options are open to you too. I tend to focus down on DIY economy builds as to keep the bar low enough that most people can build up a screen if they have the room.

Well i definitely need 1080p and Nvidia Surround capable.  I dont care much for 3D if i cant have the best of both worlds.

I need 3 1080p projectors with best possible color.  In other words i want ones with the best Blacks and Picture quality.  I guess i will have to go Short Throw instead of Ultra.  No problem cause i can just mount them in the back on the celiing.

Money is not really an issue.  Of course $25,000 for a projector is way too much.

I'll hunt around a bit and do some research on 1080p in the next day or 2. There are not many consumer 1080p that are even marginally suited for the job though. Adding in 1080p S3D capability even makes it more scarce. 1080p S3D forces a requirement of dual-dvi or displayport input. HDMI doesn't typically have the required bandwidth.

You're still not giving me enough information to give you a proper answer with though. I need to know room size and proposed screen size.

BHawthorne wrote:

I'll hunt around a bit and do some research on 1080p in the next day or 2. There are not many consumer 1080p that are even marginally suited for the job though. Adding in 1080p S3D capability even makes it more scarce. 1080p S3D forces a requirement of dual-dvi or displayport input. HDMI doesn't typically have the required bandwidth.

You're still not giving me enough information to give you a proper answer with though. I need to know room size and proposed screen size.

 

Sorry for getting back to you so late, ive been sooo busy latley

I really appreciate your help!

 

I will give you my room size as soon as i can.

I am running 3 nvidia gtx 580 3gb.  It has 2 dvi connectors and one hdmi.

Also, 3D is not important. I can do without it

Check out projectorcentral.com - they usually have a pretty comprehensive list of available projectors, searchable by features.

A search for 1080P short-throw yields three items.  One is over $19,000, the other two have no price listed.  It looks like the Sim2 Grand Cinema projectors might fit your needs, assuming the price isn't too outlandish.

Hey Thanks!!

What about this projector?

Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 6500UB

Its 1080p  Does it really need to be short throw? Im pretty sure i have enough room 

You have to understand that alot of PC builders like myself did not go through all the trouble to build a beast of a system with 4way SLI to display 720p resolutions on 3 projectors.  It absolutley must be at LEAST 1080P.

I dont understand how everyone here puts up with 720p Projectors.  And i dont understand why there cant be a 1080p short throw Projector at a reasonable price.

 

anyway i will look into the link you gave me.

But let me know what you think about that projector i listed above.  Its about $3,000 which is more along my budget for 3 of them.

ProjectorCentral shows the 6500UB as out of production, but the 8350 seems similar, and only $1299.

What sort of FOV do you want to cover?  One limiting factor is the need to project over your head, and if the throw is too long, you may exceed the ability of the lens shift to provide keystone correction.

With the 8350, it's got 96% vertical lens shift and a minimum throw ratio of 1.37, so you shouldn't have any problems unless you're trying to achieve FOV in excess of 200°.  Even then, if you're willing to accept a little extra top-side resolution reduction due to digitally-corrected keystoning, this is not a problem.

I am not sure what type of FOV i want yet since i am not at my house at the moment.  I will be returning to my home on the 29th of July.

I really need to know where to find an experienced professional who can build me an accoustically transparent screen.

I want the screen to be curved as well.  Dont know exactly if i want 180 degree or less for the curve. 

80 - 90 inches should be big enough. 

I will look more into that Projector, thanks

I found a Projector by acer that has DVI connection!!  This would be better than HDMI you think?

Its 1080p as well

There is not a lot of difference regarding video signal quality of DVI vs. HDMI, but I would lean towards DVI because: 

- DVI cables are generally easier to source and more cost effective 

- Most graphics cards have DVI outputs (although there are exceptions) 

- Graphics cards will have also have a mixture of outputs including DVI, HDMI, mini-HDMI, DisplayPort and mini-DisplayPort. In most instances, sourcing a converter to DVI is simpler than say a mini-DP to HDMI. 

I thought that DVI would make a huge difference in input lag compared to HDMI.

I know that Graphics cards come with many different inputs, I am running 3way sli on Nvidia GTX580's

I want to know if there is a noticable difference between 720p and 1080p on projectors.  I ask because i am finding it real hard to find 3 1080p projectors that can do short throw and 3D.  Seems like all the Nvidia certified Projectors out there only do 720p

I did not buy 3way sli to do just 720p resolutions on 3 projectors.

Okay first things first.

 

I need to find an experienced professional to come and build me an Accoustically Transparent Screen.

Ive looked online and i cant seem to find anyone like this in Miami FL.

Thats where i live.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

So far most users are DIY. I have done a few builds for customers over the years, but logistically, Florida is too far for me to easly work the project.

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